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Cheers for the nice review Torbz... special wasn't it thanks for coming... and thanks for cheering me up (even though you didn't know) on Saturday night when i was sat in my tent, covered in baby sick at my witts end and then I hear you sat around the fire singing "One Way" by the Levellers... one of my favourite songs of all time by my favourite band of all time... really put a smile on my face, thanks!

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Let us know on this one Torbz and we can add you as a link to the HangOut website... talk more about this one at HangOut sounds like fun

Amen brother... Amen!

Hey Seabreeze and welcome to the forum... don't feel guilty about buying a 2nd hand Hang, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get something you want, its not your fault either that people out there stick their Hang on ebay at ridiculous starting prices but thats the way of the world unfortunately.

You should be glad that you now own one... I can't imagine having waited 1 year for a reply from PANart.... its no wonder people lose faith and turn to the auctions for buying a Hang.

Your Hang will bring you many hours of pleasure that is for sure and never rule out a retune by PANart... you may never need a retune either, these things are pretty durable when played and looked after correctly.

Welcome to Hang Ownership and never feel guilty, you did nothing wrong but buy something you really wanted and had the opportunity to get hold of.

Kelly

If all you are doing is selling a Hang, at whatever price you can, why post it on forums where you know you're going to get people's backs up... you already know the thoughts of a lot of people in the community which is indicated in your first post?

Sorry if I have confused you with Bruce Copley, its just the eBay account you are using to sell the hang is almost identical to the one he used to try and sell one he had a while ago? if you are not Bruce then you do know Bruce as this has been stated on another forum, so maybe I have had some "assumptive thinking" but then certain things have pointed towards this thinking.

Nothing anyone says on here is going to get anyone anywhere either we'll just go around in circles on the same topic... you do what you want, you will anyway!

Sad times... truely sad times

Nothing wrong with getting what you want for something that you own, the issue lies with the start price! Why put a hang out on eBay with a hugely inflated starting bid, let the people dictate the cost of the instrument not your own personal greed.

Do i agree with what you've said below, yes I do, PANart have in a way caused the issues surrounding the hang prices by stopping production (the bottleneck), much like anything in this world when it ceases production it usually goes up in price as collectors start to dictate the price.... but a starting price of $5,500 is in my opnion outright greed... but that is my opinion and someone out there with money to burn will probably think differently.... but if it goes like the last time you placed this hang on eBay it'll probably remain unsold.

No fire and brimstone here Bruce, it's your Hang, you do with it what you want.

A very short time ago i said there was still plenty of time to get your HangOut tickets... well that time has just shrunk somewhat as we now only have 5 tickets remaining... this is it folks, the last lucky 5 tickets!

Looks like we have plenty of Hang coming this year but could always do with some more... there are a fair few tickets gone to non Hang owners that need their hang appettite wetting, so if you have a Hang and still want to come to the HangOut get booking quick!!!!!!!!    if you don't have a Hang but still want to come then book away, you don't have to have a Hang to come to the HangOut

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Never... I can't believe the Hang were not mistreated to begin with to require retunes! people need to treat them with respect, don't use soft mallets and don't hit them too hard (or drop them), like anything they can go out of tune, and the downside of it is you have to send it back to PANart, unless of course you know how to tune a Hang yourself.... which is more complex than steel pans, people buy and play those but not everyone can retune them themselves either.

I know pleanty of people that busk with their Hang and have never had any problems, remember new they are 1200 euros, mine when i got it cost me £350... eBay is pushing prices up to still unaffordable prices but that's only through the demand, those that buy at the silly prices probably do not need to busk you're right... but some spend, save bloody hard all the money they can just to own one.

Personally, although these steel tongue drums are ok, they're not the Hang and to be honest i'd rather spend my money on a proper wooden tongue drum, the sound and resonance is way superior to that of the steel, wood is way more natural in tone and sweet on the ear. www.tonguedrum.com

I'd imagine with the Milltone drum that you can apply magnets to certain parts of the metal to change the pitch, I would think that if you knocked it out of tune by bending the metal then you'd have to know what to do to bring it back in tune... much like the hang.

There are no alternatives for the Hang at this time, the Halo is not on general release as yet, the BELLart from Spain is out there but the tone is still not quite that of the Hang and the waiting list is long.... 1200 euros too so the same price as the Hang but not yet the quality of the Hang... make your own mind up on that one.

Halo is the best bet for anyone in the US, but $1500 I though it was coming in at less than that to buy... more like $1200? the market dictates the price of these instruments... I do however believe that new makers to the instruments shouldn't have comparable prices with PANart, the experience and the client base just isn't there for them and they could well be setting themselves up for a fall... better in my eyes to start low, build the product and then increase the price.... but that's just my opinion.

Kalimba are nice though... you still have to pay for the quailty there too? right?

Almost May and we're all set now for HangOut... all performers are booked, workshops are bing added including an awesome drumming circle workshop wirh Barry Mason - Barry has been playing drums for over 45 years now and his wealth of experience has seen him performing and teaching at the drum camp festival, gonna be teaching all sorts of wonderful techniques that can be easily used on your Hang.

Dizzi will be back this year with her hammered Dulcimers... don't know what a hammered dulcimer is check Dizzi out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDcmcvSJo-8 she will have a selction of instruments to buy as well as a whole host that she'll be using forworkshops as well....

More to be confirmed soon we hope

Tickets are still selling so if ya still wanna come, get booking!!! its gonna be awesome

www.hangoutuk.co.uk

Its bloody brilliant though.... I really love the iphone

hey... it's kind of difficult to say at this stage without actually seeing or more important hearing a Halo, however I have great faith in Kyle at Pantheon and I think he will not allow a lesser instrument to market for the sake of profits. He is extremly keen to win the approval of PANart and therefore i do think he will produce an instrument that is definately comparable with the Hang.

I can't wait to see the Halo, it's been a while in the making and it will be good for the world to have another maker producing a quality instrument or piece of musical art.