Topic: "SonicCouture Hang Drum for Kontakt 2" Sample Set -Review Part 1

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<td> <b><u>Introduction</u></b>

SonicCouture introduced the first professional Hang sample set at the end of September 2007 and scouring the internet for Hang samples was restricted to a wide a palette of fuzz-quality YouTube videos and a handful of notes taken from the Hangfan E-Hang (which someone craftily made availalbe on a free sample site).

It was with great excitement that I finally got hold of a copy, courtesy of a long-time, fellow-freak tech head Hang bum, whose dark history I shan't enter into now...

First off, before you go jumping in and buying this baby, I recommend the following ingredients to make your Hang Meringue sound true:

16oz (or to be exact) 2200 Hang Samples (courtesy of our SonicCouture buddies)
3lbs of Native Insturments sample software ace "Kontakt 2" (note: ver. 2.2.1 or higher required)
88 keys of ivory and ebony midi manipulation (or commonly called a midi keyboard)
A sprinkling of PC/MAC robustness, including low latency ASIO drivers for Kontakt,
2 Large, Fat, Well-Rounded Speakers
and finally, a reasonable amount of spare time and an understanding family...

   </TABLE><b><u>Getting Started</b></u>

Installation was as good as non-existent, in as much as, copy the files on the DVD into your beloved sample-hording treasure chest on your hard-drive which includes two directories of Hang samples (one MK1 and one MK2 model) and some .NKI files (Kontakt's program files for loading the sample sets). You'll need a good 2.5GB of space to cram the whole lot on there.

A nicely assembled manual in PDF format also accompanies the samples, but I didn't want to spoil my fun by reading it now did I?! (I will offer you the benefits of a delve in later though)

It took me some time to track down and borrow a copy of Kontakt 2 though - at £180 a pop, it's somewhat prohibitively priced to buy. However, a little hunting around online might bring up some 'cheaper' deals - if you catch my drift. Kontakt 3 is now the latest version and that retails at around £250.

<b><u>Firing Up The Decks...</b></u>

You're gonna need juice for this gig....lots and lots of processing juice. I ran Kontakt and the sample pack on a machine with a dual-core Athlon, 2GB RAM and a midspeed hard drive and an EMU 10/10 card with 12ms of ASIO latency, all on the allegedly wretched Windows XP platform.

<i>(Incidentally, since writing the review, I've tested Kontakt 2 in stand-alone mode on a slower machine with an Intel Celeron (medium speed 2GHz-2.5Ghz - can't remember exactly), 1GB RAM and a much slower hard drive - it still worked quite well, but had much longer sample load times (around 90 secs) and with occassional glitches when you first start playing the samples after load up but fine after a short while)</i>

Browsing to the samples, I head first to the Hang MK1 set, and I'm presented with 6 programs (or 'maps') to choose from.

<img src="http://www.hangfan.co.uk/images/file-browser.jpg"><br><br> I'll head straight for the first in the list - the chromatic scale.
A simple drag and drop into the main sample window of Kontakt, a wait of 20 seconds or so as all the samples in that map load, and a rather fetching close-up of a MK1 ding stares at me with minute little faces reflecting in its polished sheen.

<img src="http://www.hangfan.co.uk/images/hang-mk1.jpg"><br><br>

Not being able to resist the immediate satisfaction of hearing the sound, I press a few keys on my keyboard and I'm hit with a machine gun of Hang slaps - BRILLIANT!! What more could a fanatic want.

<b><u>Map-Reading</b></u>

Ok, so it got more complex than that - SonicCouture have arranged the samples into 'maps'. As the style and nature of playing a Hang involves a lot more than simple chromatic notes (and, of course, the fact that you can't actually get a chromatic Hang) , they've taken into account these likely variations that existing Hang players may use. Each one of these maps allows you access to all of the instruments samples, they are simply arranged differently to allow you maximum flexibility and enabling the user to find a map that suits their performance needs.

Of course, for certain scenarios, it won't matter what map you use, as you can use sequencing software to trigger the samples accordingly - but more about that later.

The Chromatic map (pictured below), for example, lays out the samples across 3 octaves (marked as blue keys) and the 5 red keys below them denote the key or 'sample' switches. These switches allow you to swap the blue key samples between the five different playing (or 'hit') styles that have been recorded, namely:

<b>Fingers Centre</b> (which I would call 'finger taps' at the centre of each notes central 'crater')
<b>Fingers Edge</b> (placed within each notes area of flattened indentation - but not within the crater)
<b>Slap</b> (or as I prefer a 'pimped up finger tap)
<b>Fingers In Between </b>(meaning between the flattened note areas - 'No Mans Land')
<b>Knuckles</b> (ermmm...ouch...)

<img src="http://www.hangfan.co.uk/images/mk1-keys.jpg"><br><br>

This impressive array of styles doesn't, however, include a couple of my personal favourites - those being the 'sideways wrist twist and thumb hit' combo (which does produce a much softer 'non-slappy' sound, especially on the MK 1's) and multiple light finger taps 'tabla-stylee' (familiar to some of the more 'purist-percussive' players around).

That said, I launch into playing around with some of the key switches and alternating notes and playing styles, and already I'm beginning to tingle in strange places... the knuckle hits especially sound like someone tapping inside your head!

Also included is the Gu side 'udu-like' hand hits which (bar the harmonic ring hit you can get) all sound pretty similar regardless of what hit style you are playing with.

The Chromatic Map is also the only map that introduces 'faked' notes (obviously) to fill the gaps that a real Hang couldn't musically produce. This does lead to some side-effects, though we'll look at that a little later.

The other maps on offer include some interesting and very useful layouts for accessing the samples in a reasonably playable fashion. Some feel more natural than others, and as an avid Hang player, I could begin to see the possibilities for live performance and sequenced sample performance being skillfully welded and melded together.

The maps include:
<b>The Precision Map</b>
The notes availalbe on the keyboard become restricted to the original notes of the hang. Includes the key switches for different hits.

<b>The Octave Map</b>
Effectively, five octaves of samples - each octave containing a different hit style and all of the original notes of the Hang, therefore doing away with the need for keyswitches.

<b>The Two Hand Map</b>
A quite widely spaced pairing of samples to reflect playing with two hands, with alternate notes (1 through to 8 on the MK1) in each pair of of notes. NOt a bad idea, but difficult to get right wihtout a bit of practise. Remembering where the notes are being the biggest issue here.

and finally, the <b>Wide Zone Keyboard Map</b>
which is for me the most interesting so far. The Wide Zones map presents all of the Hang notes laid out in a long string across the keyboard, with each clean note represented and a few samples in between which physically represent the spaces in between the Hang notes. If you run your finger along the keyboard playing each note, you really get the impression that someone is playing the Hang every couple of centimetres all the way around.

This map features 4 red keyswitches, though I suspect it should actually be only 3, as the fingers playing centre, on the edge and in between each note are already represented in the main default keyswitch style (therefore leaving only knuckles and slaps to swap to).


<b><u>Hang The DJ?</b></u>
Sound quality - probably the big make or break issue for present Hang owners. HOw does the SC Hang Drum stand against the real deal?
Well, obvious transportability, tactile perversity and sheer attractiveness of a real Hang are things you'll never accurately recreate, but most of us will be using these samples hiding under our duvets, nerding out in true bedroom studio style.

All samples are recorded in stereo at 44.1KHz and at 24 bit and at first touch, the samples do impress in terms of depth, variety and quality. The Gu sample does leave me wanting though, as you can really get in close and record less metal and more ooomph but it is, by no means, bad.

What wasn't obvious to me (depsite having some touch sensitivity on my keyboard - which is a Korg Karma) was the depth of each individual sample. Each key can contain multiple samples, which are triggered accordingly, depending on how hard you hit your midi controllers keys (expressed in the MIDI world as 'velocity' values anywhere between 0 and 127). I noticed maybe 5 different layers, though there are supposedly up to 21 sample layers for each note. It is quite an impressive and expressive effect though, to have a degree of touch sensitivity to playing.

I can't imagine how they managed to measure the physical imapct of each Hang note struck, to then categorise them according to that stength of hit and then lay them on each key in those layers. I guess that's why they're the professionals! I'm not a Kontakt 2 user, so I don't know if it is possible to actually view the sample layers to see how many there are on each key.

I'm still not sure if I invented this in my head, but whilst playing the chromatic scale, it did feel as though the 'unnatural' Hang notes were harmonically weird.

The assumption is that they took the regular Hang notes and raised or lowered the tones to fill the gaps, and that would of course include the harmonics for each sample. I'm not sure if Kontakt does this automatically (presumably not), or if SonicCouture took the samples and processed them using other 3rd party software to get the desired notes and remapped them into Kontakt.

The Hang certainly resonates mathmatically - i.e. each note around the ding, are designed to resonate in ratio to the Ding note - 2/1 - 1.75/1 and so on. I got the feeling that the treated samples demonstrated some strange harmonic behaviour and sounded unnatural, probably due in large part to these disharmonic artifacts.

The master transpose function is one we'll cover in part 2 and see how effectively it works.

<b><u>Half-time Conclusion</b></u>

To sum up part 1 (as it's getting bloody late and I wanna sleeeeeeeeeep!)

<b>Software/Installation  - Score - 7.5/10</b>
Samples great value for money
Prohibitive but not impossible software requirements.
Resonable size
Quick and painless install (simple copy of samples across)

<b>Sound Quality -  Score - 9/10</b>
Clear, deep and juicy! Can't fault the true Hang note samples.
Knuckle knocks are great!
Derived chromatic notes 'a bit dodgy'

<b>Playability - Score 8/10</b>
Not easy to master, but then is anything?
Wide choice of sample maps and hit styles though a couple of common hit styles not included.


OVERALL: 8.5/10 (see below)

Edit: Part 2 actually never got written due to time constraints and me having to give my loan copy back. SonicCouture did promise me a copy, but it never came sadly.
You still have a chance to send me one though guys...and then I could do part 2....anyway, I'll conclude the review early.



Review written by Torbz.
For more information about the product, visit www.soniccouture.com
The 'Hang Drum' Sample pack costs £49 (by download) or £52 (DVD by post).
Any comments, suggestions about the review, please post in this thread.

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Re: "SonicCouture Hang Drum for Kontakt 2" Sample Set -Review Part 1

mUUUUHwuGAHAHHHHHHHhhhhhhhH!   Yeah! Give me that hang sound baby! yeahhhhhhhh!
thankyou, torbz
you really should be writing a novel
i mean it
so has it got a helmholtz resinator warp-drive button? can we put one in?  how about an electrified ding-bender emulator? shouldnt be too hard to do....   ?
that kontact 2.2 seems to be everywhere
could probably post a link so long as theres no radar watching me
muhhhwuggah and thankyou for a splendid review

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Feel free to post whatever (dodgy, I assume) links to Kontakt as you wish. I do not censor here mate!
There is, however, a dodgy copy of the sample pack floating about. I'm emailing the SC guys to let them know so they can get it removed.

Can I suggest to anyone thinking of DL'ing it, to not do so, and actually support these guys, as they are (despite their technical backgrounds) still a small operation.

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Hey man, top-notch review!!!! Did you ever get a chance to check out that Microsoft Surface link? Can you imagine an E-Hang on that thing?

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Wow, just looked at the MS surface thing! Sci-fi or what?! Spooky stuff...

I can imagine the two being very strange and exciting - you could determine the number of notes and the position, hooked into a nice sample pack, and badda boom! - instant custom Hang!

Hehe, I'll go glue one together now!

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Hi Torbz, Great review. I am a few steps behind you on this. I have the samples now downloaded which at first was all I thought I wanted. But the software
"Kontakt" seems to offer a way to make this work in a very playable way. With a Zendrum that is. I think pecking out the notes on a keyboard could
work for experimenting, composing etc. But you won't get the movement, the feeling that your really playing the thing (the Hang). The ZD will get you
close. Sweaty close.
Also I am very intrigued with the note generator that is suppossed to be part of the deal. I am not sure if it is NE or SC but it sounds
like a built in looping device:-)
The Kontakt software is going to take about a week to show up at my door so I am just trying to absorbe as much information as I can, that is to say I am looking forward to your Sample Set -Review Part 2. Thanks for taking the time.

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great review t man smile looking good mate smile

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jrj wrote:

Hi Torbz, Great review. I am a few steps behind you on this. I have the samples now downloaded which at first was all I thought I wanted. But the software
"Kontakt" seems to offer a way to make this work in a very playable way. With a Zendrum that is. I think pecking out the notes on a keyboard could
work for experimenting, composing etc. But you won't get the movement, the feeling that your really playing the thing (the Hang). The ZD will get you
close. Sweaty close.
Also I am very intrigued with the note generator that is suppossed to be part of the deal. I am not sure if it is NE or SC but it sounds
like a built in looping device:-)
The Kontakt software is going to take about a week to show up at my door so I am just trying to absorbe as much information as I can, that is to say I am looking forward to your Sample Set -Review Part 2. Thanks for taking the time.

Sorry to say I don't know the Zendrum (yet). I'll have a quick poke about for it online to see what we're talking about here.
Obviously, the tactile qualities of the Hang would be sorely missed if you had exclusive access to the sample pack. If the Zendrum has a wide enough range of velocities and playable (or assignable) midi areas, then you could do something quite fun with Kontakt.
You could even use the assignable MIDI controllers in Kontakt and maybe use the ZenDrum to control filters or other parameters to give you real time Hang-warp effects!

The Hang Jam funtion (which will be covered in part 2) has been programmed by SC specifically for the Hang patches. It doesn't quite loop, as its output is random, but it does provide moments of random glory!

If you've bought a copy of Kontakt 2 and are waiting for delivery, then I suggest you try to find a copy online somewhere to dowlonad on the pirate scene. After all, you have bought it, and hence have a license to use it. That would really be the only circumstance I would endorse the practise of piracy.

Try before you buy! You can return unwanted or sub-standard goods in every other aspect of the consumer market so why not the audio and software domains too??!

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jrj wrote:

The ZD will get you
close. Sweaty close.

please tell a little about the Zendrum...  how sensitive is it? I have an Akai MPC2000xl, which is nice enough, but its not as touch sensitive as i'd like it to be - although it has many velocity levels it doesnt respond at all to very delicate/light touch, unlike a real hang, which is much more responsive...
i looked a bit online and it seems Zendrums are also pretty difficult to come by....

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Looks pretty cool. I can imagine one of those working really well with the Hang sample pack.

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Re: "SonicCouture Hang Drum for Kontakt 2" Sample Set -Review Part 1

The Zendrum is not acoustic and not a Hang. Obviously, but I say that because
I want to lower expectations before I raise them...:-)

The touch sensitivity is very sensitive. You can set it so just the lightest touch will trigger the sound.
Or it can be set so that all a light touch gives you is a light sound, hit it a little harder
and you get a little harder sound just like an acoustic instrument. That is
really amazing considering that this is all electronic. But there is lots more.
On my version you can have four cross-fades per pad. There are 24 pads,
so that times four is 96 sounds that can be layered in. I have found that to be
way overkill. Just because you could doesn’t mean you should. On the other
hand with the Hang ( if this works like I hope it does) it could go; slap soft,
slap hard, knuckle, ding on one pad just by varying attack!

On the MPC’s the pads are soft(y) meaning they give. I thought that
the ZD would be the same way but the pads are hard, solid like a round
black plastic button or knob about the size of a half dollar.(Some smaller pads too) The Pads are raised above the surface about 3/4’s of an inch. It sounds odd but when you play it you get it. In fact you forget about it all together and just groove. The difference
between playing the ZD though, and a sampler is just that; the difference
between playing a machine and playing a musical instrument.

I love samplers but I would say that the difference between an MPC and
a Zendrum as far as playing goes is similar to what a Zendrum would be
compared to a Hang. Orders of magnitude, powers of ten, light and day...
All cool along the way and all different.

We all must love music or we wouldn’t be here but for me I believe that
nothing less than a renaissance is occurring and we are living right in the middle of it.
Renaissance would require shifts on lots of different levels and part of that is instrumentation.
I think that there are three instruments that are part of this renaissance 
(in instruments); the ChapmanStick, Zendrum and the Hang. These things are different otherworldly, passed on from a higher dimension. The love is there...

Diamondlight, the Zendrum people are very nice just call them up and talk about what you want and they will build it. That was my experience. It take a few months.

If you want to check out a song of mine that has a lot of ZD go to my mySpace
and click on “Om Pioneer†. The first part has piano flute, Horns and treatments that
are not Zendrum. But otherwise is Zendrum.The second part is all Zendrum; Bass, acoustic/ electric guitar, Sax, harp, harmonics, flute, sitar, etc...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu … D=60141044

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jrj  thanks so much for the info - i think i get it already - Zendrum pads are hard, like a Hang... its only the sound that changes, not the pad - squishiness is kind of distracting, ultimately. Must have some amazing circuitry behind it - MPC pads I guess are triggered in a more physical kind of a way (pad give). Looking at photos of ZD i thought the pad moved down when hit, but it doesnt move at all, right? Total touch sensitivity....  is it as responsive as a touchpad on a laptop?   MPC is much nicer than a keyboard, but still not quite there... a fair range of volume loudness /softness depending on how hard you hit it, but not really enough, especially regarding v delicate touch, which it doesnt register at all. I do like the sequencer though. OK, I'll flog it and buy a Zendrum....  thanks again for great advice...  will check out your song on myspace now

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Torbz wrote:

Try before you buy! You can return unwanted or sub-standard goods in every other aspect of the consumer market so why not the audio and software domains too??!

I found a dodgy fully working version of kontakt 2.2.1 very easily - if any dedicated hangfans simply cant afford the 180 pounds for it, but want to try this magical hangdrum sample pack, then look on the bit torrent forums for kontakt. If you're really stuck PM me and I'll try to help out, but it is a big upoad on my lousy connection and I decided I dont want to host 100 meg of dodgyness on my little website cos I could get shut down for that kind of thing....